Showing posts with label Neutral AH. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Neutral AH. Show all posts

Monday, April 16, 2012

Cross Faction Transferring - How To Avoid Getting Sniped


Watch out for WoW auction house snipers
He's Waiting To Snipe Your Auctions


Transferring Items Across Factions Via The Neutral AH

One of the strategies for making gold in World of Warcraft involves transferring items via the neutral auction house from one faction to the other. There can be a great difference in price when comparing the same item on both the Horde and the Alliance auction houses. This leaves an opportunity to transfer items from the cheaper side to the more expensive side to make even more gold. Sometimes you may need an item that is rarely available on your faction, but is readily available on the other. Or you could be looking for a way to transfer some nice gear from your Horde characters to your newly formed Alliance alts on the same server. There are plenty of reasons why someone would want to transfer an item across factions, but there is a major risk involved. Someone else could end up buying the item right out from under you!

Sniping - Sniping is the term we use to describe the act of snatching these items off of the neutral auction house before the intended buyer can buy them.

How Not To Transfer Items Cross Faction

In order to transfer items from one faction to the other, you must use the neutral auction house. The basic premise is this:
  1. You post an item on the neutral auction house on 1 character.
  2. You buy it out on a character on the other faction. 
The absolute worst way to attempt a cross faction transfer is to:
  1. Post the item on character 1.
  2. Log out of character 1.
  3. Log into character 2 on the opposing faction.
  4. Attempt to buy your own item off the auction house.
With this method, you run the highest risk of getting your auction sniped by another player because you are leaving a large window of opportunity for sniping during your character swapping process. This risk can be lowered if you get a friend to be waiting on the other faction waiting to buy your auctioned item for you.
  
Since the auction house fees are very expensive on the neutral auction house, many players will post their items to transfer at very low prices, which makes them easy to identify as items trying to be transferred. Posting your item for more than a few copper will make it less obvious to an inexperienced sniper, but if you are trying to do all of the work on a single account, then you are still leaving yourself at high risk for sniping. Auction House add-ons can still search for items priced too low and alert the scanner that they are posted at great deal finding prices. So what is the safest way to transfer items across the neutral auction house?

How I Transfer Items Safely Across The Neutral Auction House

I have a 100% success rate for transferring my own items across to the other faction. I have never been sniped in any of my arbitrage attempts. Here is the method that I use and that I consider the fastest, safest, and best way to transfer anything via the neutral auction house.
  
Common sense should tell you to look around at the neutral auction house auctioning area. Is there someone shopping on the neutral AH already? Wait until that person leaves the area. I've actually been impatient and used my own strategy while the neutral auction house is busy, because even with someone looking to snipe you, odds are your can get the item before they can using my tactics. Here's how I do it.
  
The safest way to transfer anything via the neutral AH is to use 2 seperate WoW accounts and the Remote Auction House application on a phone. This combination make sit damn near impossible for anyone to snipe your items, even if they are there searching for items to snatch. If done right, you'll have bought your item before their search scan even finishes.
  
How It's Done:
  1. Log into the selling WoW account on your computer.
  2. Park the seller at any of the neutral auction houses.
  3. Log into buying account on the Remote Auction House Application on your smart phone.
  4. The buyer is buying from the RAH app, so the character's in game location doesn't matter.
  5. On the buying account, pre-fill the search terms for the item you are transferring and going to buy.
  6. On the seller account, pre-fill all of the posting price data for that same item.
  7. Hit the post button on the computer.
  8. Immediately hit the search function on the phone and buyout the item you just posted.
  9. Repeat this process one item at a time.
This process minimizing that window of opportunity for a sniper to search for and find your item before you have a chance to buy it yourself. Using the RAH app also prevents you from having to park a character near the neutral auction house. If you have two accounts or a friend helping with both the buyer and seller near the same auctioneer, you are just asking for trouble. Trying to compete the transferring process all by yourself on a single account is also just screaming for someone to come snipe you. To be the safest, use two seperate accounts and a smart phone with the RAH application. This method has never got me into trouble. You can do the same thing with just 2 WoW accounts, but the RAH adds an even faster and less obvious sign that you are cross faction transferring.

Is Sniping A Reportable Offense?   

Hell no! All the sniper did was buy an item off of the auction house that you priced horribly low. By posting items on the neutral auction house, you are offering them for sale at the chosen price, which is no different than you posting items on any other auction house. If you don't get to buy them first, then you lose out on the items, but no crime has been committed. Once you get nabbed once, you will hopefully try to be smarter about how you cross faction transfer.
  
Many players frown upon the notion of someone even thinking of sniping someone's items off the auction house. Pshh! Probably the same people who jump at the chance to buy a mispriced item off of the normal auction house. It's no different really. You are just preying upon people making mistakes in their posting process. You can find some good deals on both the faction and neutral auction house system. If they are that cheap, why wouldn't you buy them?
  


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Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Maelstrom Crystals | Lantern and Lamp Trading

Magic Lamp

Maelstrom Crystals

Patch 4.1 will bring ways to get Maelstrom Crystals much easier and cheaper.  The new ZG and ZA Heroics coming in Patch 4.1 will be dropping epic items, which will be able to be disenchanted into the Maelstrom Crystals.  The result will be an increase in the supply of the Maelstrom Crystals across all servers.  The prices of these Maelstrom Crystals will drop as they are much more readily available as the new supply enters the market.

Most players are excited about the opportunity to finally be able to start moving some of the higher end enchants that require the Maelstrom Crystals.  Right now the cost of the higher end enchants due to the requirement of the Maelstrom Crystals has the price very expensive and not worth trying to sell as the investment required is outrageous and probably unable to allow for much profit on most servers.  People just don't want to spend that much gold on an enchant, especially on an item that will be replaced soon.

Lantern And Lamp Trading

Two items that will also see a lowered production cost are the Enchanting crafted vanity pets.  The Enchanted Lantern and the Magic Lamp are companion pets crafted by Enchanters.
  • The Enchanted Lantern is only craftable by Horde Enchanters.
  • The Magic Lamp is only craftable by Alliance Enchanters.
Both of these companion pets require a single Maelstrom Crystal as a part of the crafting requirements.  Currently they are very expensive to craft due to the sheer cost of the Maelstrom Crystal required.  Once the cost of the Maelstrom Crystals drops after Patch 4.1, then these companion pets may be a great option to profit on the auction house.  As many players will be fiddling in the higher end enchant market, you may be able to find a niche within the vanity pet market selling these faction specific vanity pets.  And Patch 4.1 will be causing a demand spike for vanity pets since there are new achievements coming with the patch also.  

Cross Faction Trading 

You can make a ton more by getting involved in swapping these companion pets to sell to the faction that is unable to craft them at all.  On average, the value of the opposing faction's enchanting pet will be higher than the value of the pet everyone on your faction can create.  Both are viable income streams, but when both avenues are explored together the profit should be more than double the single revenue stream given the limiting nature of the faction specific crafting requirements.  The vanity pet / companion market is a great market to get you started with Arbitrage, or Cross Faction Trading.

Also if you are thinking about buying one of either the lantern or lamp pets, you should wait until after Patch 4.1, when the cost to craft should be significantly lower once the Maelstrom Crystals start to enter the market at a reliable pace.

Monday, February 28, 2011

Starter Guide To Selling Companion Pets

Vanity Pets aka Companion Pets

The Companion Pet market is an excellent market to add to your auction house business.  I have been selling vanity pets for most of my auction house career.  The vanity pet market is a lucrative market and is one of the entry level markets that I would recommend to anyone new to the auction house.  When setting up your pet shop business there are a few tips that will help you be more efficient and profitable, as well as reduce the number of unsold auctions.

Top Tips For Vanity Pet Sellers
  1. Vanity Pets Sell Better On The Weekends - More players means more buyers.  You should still sell during the week, but add a few extras on the weekends, especially on the neutral auction house.
  2. Vanity Pets Sales Spike During Game Holidays - Any World of Warcraft in-game holidays that reward pets or allow their purchase (with holiday items) will lead to a spike in sales.  Getting a pet or two from an in game event triggers players to look for more pets to add to their collection.
  3. Introducing New Pet Collector Achievements Will Increase Pet Sales - Players have been waiting for more companion collector achievements and they have been announced for Patch 4.1.  Already sales have started to increase on some servers as players look to gather their 100 and 125 pets for the new achievements prior to them hitting the live servers.  The new achievements should also award us new companion pets as the 50 and 75 collection achievements did.
  4. Park Your Alternate Characters Near Vanity Pet Dealers - If you park an alt near a vendor that sells the companion pets, then you can easily restock your auction house pet dealer via the mail system.  I like to buy 12-24 pets at a time and send them via the mail to my pet selling alt.
  5. The Neutral Auction House Is Key - You can make a nice profit selling pets to your own faction, but the real gold is in selling your faction's pets to the other faction.  There are pets that only the alliance can buy, therefore more profit is to be made selling to the Horde as they can only purchase the Alliance pets from the auction house or from other players.  Even without a second account for cross-faction trading, you may be able to buy cheap pets from the other faction via the neutral auction house and sell them at marked up prices to your own faction.  I don't have a second account and I continually buy Alliance kittens for 3-4 gold from the neutral auction house to sell to Horde players for 15-25 gold each.
  6. The Remote Auction House Makes Cross-Faction Pet Selling Easy - The ability to simply post your pets right to the neutral auction house without having to be in a neutral city is super fast and easy.  This is a market that I highly recommend utilizing the Remote Auction House for ease and efficiency.
  7. The Super Rare Expensive Pets Sell Better At Expansion's End - At the beginning of an expansion, players are focusing their purchases on being "raid ready" which means gearing up with expensive gear, gems, and enchants.  At the end of an expansion all the luxury expensive items have much better sales when players are gear capped and are piling up extra gold.  Early into an expansion players tend to buy upgrades and required items, then tend to blow excess gold later in the expansion.  So if you snatch up some super rare pets don't get frustrated and unload them for cheap.  Save them for a few months later and sell then for top gold amounts.
  8. Don't Forget The Oracles Pets - The Oracle Pets from the Mysterious Eggs continue to sell.  I still sell the proto-drake whelplings for 200-250g each.  The egg hatches after 3 days now instead of 7, which is a nice change.  If you have an engineer you can use your Wormhole Generator to get really close to the Rainspeaker Canopy where the Oracle vendor resides.
The Vanity Pet market is a highly profitable one and is an inexpensive market to try out if you are a new auctioneer looking to learn about the auction house.  Just remember these 8 tips to help you maximize your profits from these cute little companions.  The market will be seeing a spike in sales for companions as new pets and achievements are coming soon.

Where to Start?

Brand new to the market and unsure where to start?  Here is a quick start guide for you.

Are You Horde?  Start With These
  • Snakes from Ogrimmar
  • Cockroaches from Undercity
  • Prairie Dogs From Thunder Bluff
  • Dragonhawks from Fairbreeze Village, Eversong Woods
Either Faction Can Get These
  • Faire Frogs from Flik at the Darkmoon Faire
  • Exotic Pets from the Exotic Pet Dealer in Stormspire, Netherstorm
Are You Alliance?  Start With These
  • Moths from Exodar
  • Kittens from Stormwind and the Cat Lady outside Goldshire
  • Owls from Darnassus
  • Rabbits from Dun Morogh

Thursday, December 30, 2010

Neutral Auction House: What Sells?

What Sells on The Neutral Auction House?


This is a very common question that I am routinely asked in emails.  "What should I sell on the Neutral Auction House?"  Basically you can sell anything that has a great difference in value on the other faction of your server.  It is usually in your best interests to transfer your items to a character on the other faction by using two WoW accounts.  Always be smart and quick when transferring items via the neutral auction house.  You don't wanna have your goods snatched up by someone waiting to steal under-priced goods.

Here are some lists detailing what some of the reliable sellers are on the neutral auction house.  You should start off your neutral auction house business with the vendor items that are not available to the other faction.  Since they can't buy them from a vendor they must either buy them from the neutral auction house or from a player that transferred them to the other faction server.

Sterling from the Consortium.stormspire.net had already compiled a neutral auction house selling list so I am using his list here with some modifications.  Alliance only items are to be sold to the Horde and Horde only ones to the Alliance.  Some of the quests that awarded these items may be removed, but you can still grab some existing patterns to flip to the opposing faction.

Alliance Only

Quest Reward Recipes
[Pattern: Moonglow Vest]
[Plans: Golden Scale Gauntlets]
[Plans: Heavy Copper Longsword]
[Plans: Ironforge Breastplate]
[Recipe: Kaldorei Spider Kabob]
[Recipe: Roasted Moongraze Tenderloin]
[Recipe: Tasty Lion Steak]

Vendor Recipes
[Recipe: Beer Basted Boar Ribs]
[Recipe: Blood Sausage]
[Recipe: Clam Chowder]
[Recipe: Crocolisk Gumbo]
[Recipe: Crocolisk Steak]
[Recipe: Fillet of Frenzy]
[Recipe: Gooey Spider Cake]
[Recipe: Goretusk Liver Pie]
[Recipe: Loch Frenzy Delight]
[Recipe: Murloc Fin Soup]
[Recipe: Redridge Goulash]
[Recipe: Seasoned Wolf Kabob]
[Recipe: Westfall Stew]
[Pattern: Black Whelp Cloak]
[Pattern: Black Whelp Tunic]
[Pattern: Herbalist's Gloves]
[Pattern: Raptor Hide Belt]
[Pattern: Red Whelp Gloves]
[Pattern: Bright Yellow Shirt]
[Schematic: Blue Firework]

Vendor Pets
[Cat Carrier (Bombay)]
[Cat Carrier (Cornish Rex)]
[Cat Carrier (Orange Tabby)]
[Cat Carrier (Silver Tabby)]
[Cat Carrier (White Kitten)]
[Great Horned Owl]
[Hawk Owl]
[Rabbit Crate (Snowshoe)]
[Blue Moth Egg]
[White Moth Egg]
[Yellow Moth Egg]

All the Argent Tournament Pets
Horde Only

Quest Reward Recipes
[Pattern: Kodo Hide Bag]
[Recipe: Discolored Healing Potion]
[Plans: Barbaric Iron Boots]
[Plans: Barbaric Iron Breastplate]
[Plans: Barbaric Iron Gloves]
[Plans: Barbaric Iron Helm]
[Plans: Barbaric Iron Shoulders]



Vendor Recipes
[Formula: Enchant Chest - Lesser Mana]
[Pattern: Raptor Hide Harness]
[Recipe: Bat Bites]
[Recipe: Crispy Bat Wing]
[Recipe: Crispy Lizard Tail]
[Recipe: Heavy Crocolisk Stew]
[Recipe: Lynx Steak]
[Recipe: Roasted Kodo Meat]
[Recipe: Scorpid Surprise]
[Schematic: Red Firework]

Vendor Pets
[Brown Snake]
[Black Kingsnake]
[Prairie Dog Whistle]
[Golden Dragonhawk Hatchling]
[Red Dragonhawk Hatchling]
[Silver Dragonhawk Hatchling]

All the Argent Tournament Pets


Sinshroud of the Consortium also has a great post about the neutral auction house and sniping tactics that you would be well advised to also read.  Now get that shopping list in order and get to selling on the neutral auction houses of Azeroth in World of Warcraft!

Tuesday, August 24, 2010

Multiple Accounts & the Neutral Auction House: Reader Submission

"Hey man. Let me start out by saying I very much enjoy your blog. I have been playing WoW for a long time, and have always been into having tons and tons of alts. Always been broke with no gold, no professions. Lately, professions and making gold seem like a fun thing to do/aim for instead of mindlessly leveling alts and gearing them and wasting more gold. I decided to have 3 toons in Cata. 
 
Hunter - 450 JC/Mining
Druid - 450 Enchanting/?(Suggestion for this profession)?
Warlock - 450 Alchemy/Herb
 
Anyway, here is a gold strat I have thought about. Let me know what you think.
I have 2 wow accounts. My plan would be...
Example 1
 
Account A buy as many primordial saronites as I can at the lowest going rate on my faction (horde), which is around 410g. Say I buy 10 of them. I would spend 4,100g. Then make my way to the neutral AH, and put the 10 orbs up for 1 copper. Then quickly grab them off the AH on Account B, on my alliance toon. Then sell them on my alliance side for the going rate, which is about 480g. This would make around 4,800g minus the 4,100g i spent on them originally. Which would net me about 700g for little to no work? Does this seem like a strategy that could work for a long time, if I'm willing to pay the subscription. Because no matter what, prices on different factions are ALWAYS going to be different. 


Thanks,

Deathvalley"


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Thanks Deathvalley for the submission.  Anyone else have suggestions or ideas, feel free to comment as well.  Here's my take:


I have 10 characters on the same server so I understand the expense in leveling and gearing alts.  Mine all have epic flight and cold weather flight and maxed professions, so it is attainable.  With the end of the expansion nearing, I wouldn't focus much on gearing your alts, unless its from dungeon drops.  Once the expansion drops, we will get quest gear that out levels our raiding /  badge gear, as is the case every expansion.  So don't waste gold gearing up now.  


As far as your druid's second profession.  Druids make the best gatherers with their instant flying mount, especially Herbalism as you can herb in flightform without leaving form.  If you want something good to pair with enchanting, JC and BS are great, especially if you are looking for cheap enchanting mats.  Both professions have nice BOP craftables that can be disenchanted for better profit than the typical tailor/ enchanting combos.


Cross-faction trading is a great way to get gold.  I would tend to shy away from Primordial Saronites right now, as the pricing is falling daily.  What I would focus on are the big 4 for starters:
     Wool Cloth from Alliance to Horde
     Silk Cloth from Horde to Alliance
     Faction Specific Cooking Recipes (especially Moongraze Tenderloin and other quest earned ones.)
     Faction Specific Vanity Pets (Mainly Kittens and especially White Kittens)


The Vanity Pet Market is awesome for both sides, but especially Alliance to Horde.